 Posted 6/7/2007 8:09:39 PM
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| I'm ready for a new topic. I don't know about you guys, but there have been MANY times that I wish there was a 6.5, 7.5, 8.5. You know what I mean. This particular photo is "almost," but "not quite." Most of the time I "err" in the positive direction. Regardless of how you feel that a 6.5 would feel better than a 6, I believe that 1/2 point increments would allow us to do a better job of voting. I know that there has to be a limit to fine-tuning the voting system, but let's set the limit after we fulfill my wishes. OK?
Go when you can, go where you can, shoot what you can
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Posted 6/7/2007 8:18:39 PM
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Stormhaven (6/7/2007)
I'm ready for a new topic. I don't know about you guys, but there have been MANY times that I wish there was a 6.5, 7.5, 8.5. You know what I mean. This particular photo is "almost," but "not quite." Most of the time I "err" in the positive direction. Regardless of how you feel that a 6.5 would feel better than a 6, I believe that 1/2 point increments would allow us to do a better job of voting.
I know that there has to be a limit to fine-tuning the voting system, but let's set the limit after we fulfill my wishes. OK?
This has been explored by me as well as several other people. I can tell you that you are going to get nowhere with it. You will just have to expand your voting tendencies. I had to do that and it worked out. When you get stuck in between say a 7 and 8, you'll just have to look a little harder for technical issues, noise, compression noise, motion blur, saturation, contrast, etc. etc. and pick a number based on the deeper analysis. 
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Posted 6/8/2007 7:11:21 AM
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| Well, I've been nowhere before. And it wasn't hard to get there. As for your suggestion, Eninja, I mostly already did that before I got stuck. For the most part, it's the "7s-almost 8s" that are the hardest. Oh, well, I believe what Jesus said, "You have not, because you ask not."
Go when you can, go where you can, shoot what you can
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Posted 6/9/2007 6:03:05 AM
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Stormhaven (6/8/2007)
Well, I've been nowhere before. And it wasn't hard to get there. As for your suggestion, Eninja, I mostly already did that before I got stuck. For the most part, it's the "7s-almost 8s" that are the hardest.
Oh, well, I believe what Jesus said, "You have not, because you ask not."
I know. I am with you. I struggled with the same thing. The "better" images are harder to decide IMO. That's not true with all of them but when we are talking deciding between 8 & 9, that's where I have a problem. I have to do a detailed analysis and determine the technical soundness of the image and go based on that. A 10 is a 10 and I know it so that's not hard. I think I have only given about eight 10s or so since I have been a member. Maybe ten, I would have to look.
Basically what you have to do, and I believe it was WE who said this to me...Expand your voting scale, use the entire scale or before long you will want .25 and .75 options as well. An average image to me is 7. If it has wow factor it's above. If it looks like a snapshot where not much thought went into it, or if it has technical issues (noise, bad lighting, contrast issues, etc.) it's below 7. For some people average might be 5. Which actually makes more sense in the grand scheme but if you look at the site wide statistics, it seems that 7 is average.
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Posted 6/9/2007 8:09:08 AM
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Raise you hand if, at some point since joining, you didn't think that half point voting was a good idea.... Few hands. Most of us have wished for the same.
The answer is always the same and just as valid each time it is given.
If you had the half point you would want the quarter. The scale is as it is and makes for some difficult decisions, but it is in those difficult decisions that you evaluate critically and expand your ability to recognize the art in the image. It is during those most critical evaluations that you learn the most.
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Posted 6/10/2007 7:48:28 PM
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What do you mean, "if I had a half a dollar, I would want a quarter?" Have you been talking to my accountant?
Go when you can, go where you can, shoot what you can
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