 Posted 8/10/2008 10:25:00 PM
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| I am suggesting that photographers add details of thier photos posted for voting. In the name of education adding information beyond camera and lens would help all of us learn more about how different images are created. Since there is no large stakes at risk for winning it seems low risk for photographers to share things like: F stop, shutter speed, white balance, ISO settings, any exposure comp done in camera, filters used and why, flash on camera or off and what settings used or TTL, on tripod or handheld, post processing tech to enhance the image, etc. Or just shot on auto, whatever. Curious to see how other members feel about this. I am not learning enough here and I don't mean that in a snobby way. I think photography is a life long journey of learning and was hoping to get some of that at this site. Getting a nice score feels good alright, but Imagine the possabilities if more weight is put on learning.
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Posted 8/11/2008 4:46:49 AM
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| T, I AGREE!!!!! Isn't this info inbedded in JPEG files.... Why cant it just otomatically be shown, just a thought, Daniel
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Posted 8/11/2008 5:15:06 AM
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Tcall you are in the unenviable position of being really really good at what you do. The problem with that is that it makes you more of a teacher than a student. I am glad I am relatively new to photography because there is more to learn from others than to teach.
Also the image information being put into the comments is a great idea but some of us new ones have a hard time figuring out what it means and when shooting it is hard to know exactly what settings we used. I switch my setting a lot when I am shooting the same subject so that I can get different results, that way when I review them later I can see which setting I like best. By then the question becomes which setting was used for which photo?
Having a new camera makes it more complicated because I am just now figuring out the basics of the camera and finally getting back to where I was. For us lower on the totem pole it is nice to see the information there but it is nicer to see in the comments something like - I took this photo with ___ to create a softened effect to show off ___ aspect or to highlight ___ on the subject.
Even this photo was taken to create a feeling of ___ would help with our new rash of the touchy-feely photographers who are concentrating more on the feel the photos give rather than the technical aspects.
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Posted 8/11/2008 7:01:50 AM
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 Okay found out how to get the image information (settings) on each photo I take when I was looking at it in my editing program and I viewed my file information. Really cool, so if I can find it then anyone can and it would be easy to just transfer the information to the comment section when we upload
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Posted 8/11/2008 8:04:07 AM
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| Having the settings info would be part of what I am recommending. And I know if you are not used to paying attention to that it seems confusing at first, but that's all part of learning to use your camera more effectively. I am also rec. what Jill said in her first comment about things like: I did this because of that kind of thing as well. There are so many great images on this site that one could learn from. New photographers, who are feeling the learning curve more can also learn from putting their info up and someone might be able to let them know that if they used F/16 it might work out better or making an in camera adjustment may have gotten what they were looking for.
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Posted 8/11/2008 8:12:25 AM
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In fact there is a subprogram embedded in PHP (which I suppose was used to program this website) that can automatically extract this information.
That would also show us those pictures that were heavily photoshopped (as then they generally loose the info partially).
But, in any case, just imitating the settings of a good image does not automatically lead to another good image. What is more important to know is WHY those settings were used under those circumstances.
If you have a problem with reality, quit taking photos and take up painting
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Posted 8/11/2008 11:05:28 AM
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| Absolutly, Just the settings isn't enough. The why is critical as it provides information for making judgements and not just repeating settings by rote and expecting them to work. So, yes, the rational behind the use of settings or flash or whatever would be what I am suggesting.
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Posted 8/11/2008 10:01:32 PM
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| I mentioned this very same thing in a posting not too long ago. It was under suggestions/comment box. But guess what? Nobody replied to my posting. I figured showing the EXIF data was a kept secert around DA. I have no problem inputting my EXIF data when I upload photographs. That would be a great help.
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Posted 8/12/2008 2:57:36 AM
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| I use to add all of that info but have stopped reason being most don't even take the time to read it . The other thing is that the camera settings are ever changing , every lighting needs a different setting , your distance from your subject every thing will change ,so unless you are there shooting the exact same thing it will get you in the ball park but no home run . I am not sure if it is only me but I have been wondering how much photo shopping is allowed before it is digital art . some of the land scape's ,sea scape , bugs ,portraits & even birds & animals do not look natural to my eye . I was under the impression that only basic adjustments were allowed , or that is the way it is on | | | |
