Posted 7/7/2008 6:38:28 PM
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I am getting conflicting information about how to vote. At first I understood from my inquiries that the framers of this site intended for us to actually use the 1-10 scale. Now I am finding out (the hard way) that the real scale is 5-10 and that any vote under 5 is considered a personal insult. May I ask if no votes for a photo would have the same effect as low votes, i.e. would the archiving or "weeding out" process still function the way it is supposed to? I have only been a member for a week and have already been criticized by people in high places for following the advice of other people in high places.
Looking for clear guidance......
Tocky B.
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Posted 7/7/2008 9:29:30 PM
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| Tocky, don't look for guidance in "high places," but search for wisdom in "low places." That's where humility can be found, That's where the best advice can be located. Listen only to the humble, and ignore the rest. It will all work out. I promise you. Hang In There, Stormy
Go when you can, go where you can, shoot what you can
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Posted 7/7/2008 9:35:40 PM
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Vote according to what you feel is the right thing for the image presented to you. As long as the reasons are valid and you can support the ideas and you feel good about giving a person a vote, that is what counts. 
Do not get discouraged. You will receive the nasty little comment here and there but they are very few and far between and usually you only have to deal with the person once for that image. If it continues, use the ignore list. That person will not be able to contact you and it helps get rid of the negative environment. 
It takes awhile to learn the system and sometimes there are styles and techniques that do not appeal to you, as long as you vote honestly and use the same scale for all your voting, you will do all right. Listen to what people say but remember that advice is like medicine. It is freely given but is occasionally taken. 
The articles section has two different articles on how two different members feel voting should be done. Read it over and adopt the things that you feel comfortable with, or adjust them to what you feel best suits you. If you vote how you think other people want you to vote, you will not be able to maintain a constant scale.
My opinion is that this is a photography site and people want honest answers. If they feel I am wrong there will be 14 other people voting before they get to the required number of votes to win the first award. My opinion is only 1/15 of what they need and while it is important, it is only a small part of a greater whole. 
From what I have seen 1 = really really bad, 5 = a nice shot that would end up in the family scrapbook. It has good memories attached to it but it usually would only be shared with family members because there are more than a few flaws. 7 is average/good. It is usually where a picture starts in my voting range. Add or subtract for the technical points focus, perspective, lighting, how does it compare to other photos in the same category, etc. 10 is a 'wow' this is a fantastic, unique original shot.
Do not get discouraged. be honest with how you feel a photo should be voted and vote for them all, not just the better ones. Not everyone will agree with you but that is why I am here. I want opinions from people I agree with and disagree with. I want to know if someone has a different way of looking at my photo, that maybe I missed when I looked at it. If I do something creative I want someone to notice the comment I made about what I did and tell me why they did or did not like it. It is how we learn and grow. 
If all else fails, you have a right to your opinion no matter what others feel, there is the ignore list. Use it.
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Posted 7/8/2008 6:54:00 AM
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What a great response.
Thank you, and I will remember you and your advice for this.
Tocky
Tocky B.
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Posted 7/8/2008 6:57:59 AM
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oops, I think I have just learned that these postings are sequential only and not in a tree specific to the person whose message I am replying to.
So may I add my thanks to BOTH previous posts, the first for its condensed gem of wisdom and the second for its lengthy and considered advice and support.
You have both been most kind and helpful.
Tocky
Tocky B.
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Posted 7/8/2008 7:12:48 AM
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Sorry, still having problems condensing everything when I post but working on it
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Posted 7/8/2008 7:56:44 AM
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Tocky (7/8/2008) oops, I think I have just learned that these postings are sequential only and not in a tree specific to the person whose message I am replying to.
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Tocky
Use the "Quote" button in the message of the person to whom you wish to respond and show a "tree" response.
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Posted 7/8/2008 11:17:40 AM
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jill028 (7/8/2008)
Sorry, still having problems condensing everything when I post but working on it 
oh no, I appreciate everything [i] you said [i]and the fact that you took the time to say it.
Tocky B.
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Posted 7/8/2008 11:25:23 AM
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