 Posted 5/6/2008 2:23:56 PM
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Has anyone ever encountered a voter weight 6 vote 6 on 35 images in 2 hrs. and yet followed by someone weight of 2 votes 5. Some of these images are up for annual vote and no one with weight over 200 has voted on them in 3 weeks . Where does reporting have any affect when the number 2 voter cast 600 votes out of 1000 as 5's . One of the images is in the top 10 on the whole site in wedding category. When they time after time miss the mark why should they ever have a say in signature anything . In 2003 I received the top 2 PPA awards in Vegas for my High School Senior campaign . Literally sitting next to Jay Maisel , Hanson Fong , Monte Zucker , Clay Blackmore , Calvin Hayes . Susan and Steve Powers , Connie and David Ziser , Helen Yancy , Skip Cohen and on and on . First person on stage for the night of of 150 or so merit recipients . I can compete there , but not here ?
My time will be limited in this community that has an unrealistic assumption that most possess the skill,taste and unbiased opinion needed to vote and for the others that cheat no integrity or respect for all involved . Best Wishes to those that have been kind and receptive to me here . For the powers that be when is the response to these reported voters ever going to come ?
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Posted 5/6/2008 3:54:49 PM
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| After reading your post I just had to look at your photo's. Your portraits are all great to my eyes. Full size versions are just Wow!! . I just haven't come upon them in my voting window yet but when I do they will get high votes from me. . I have not voted lately due to problems with my PC. I am using a laptop at the moment and the screen has to be at just the right angle to view properly so I am only voting when I have access to a calibrated monitor (so I can be fair with my evaluation). . We all suffer from lowball votes from newer members (and some not so new) but they all even themselves out in the end. The cream rises to the top. . Best of luck with your photo's . Cheers . Ron
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Posted 5/6/2008 3:55:59 PM
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Posted 5/6/2008 5:59:12 PM
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First off, nice portfolio.
With the majority of voters at 6 and below I'm not surprised, I see it often, kind of disheartening though. One thing to remember is that a small percentage high weight voters are 100 votes a day people. I know I'm not. It takes a while to get all of those votes. Most of your portraits would do well with my vote but since I average maybe 30 votes a day (recently) it will be a long time before I get to all of yours.
Your images, as you point out, are not judged by professionals so the results won't be the same as if they were. I've long thought that the results here more closely match what the average Joe thinks about my images rather than the commercial viability of my work.
I shoot my images for me, rarely print them, never for money (I wish I was that good) so to me the site is an opportunity to show how I capture the world around me. That resonates with some and turns others off, oh well. I have a list of people who's opinion I respect (yours is one (sometimes to my chagrin)) and I use them as touchstones to my work rather that the general scores.
Is DA a great place for professionals? Perhaps/Perhaps not. It really depends on if you take the feedback with your eyes wide open. I find that by posting images on different types of sites, placing them in context, and using the feedback I'm able get a good feel for what I am producing. I feel DA is a good data point as are other sites. If winning is all that is important then for your skills there are other sites that more closely fit your style. In other sites the top 10 here would be "also ran's" but the top 10 from those sites would be the same here.
You and I both know that the best judge of your work is, in the end, you. We appreciate your allowing us to see yours so that we may better ours.
Chris
There are 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't.
My Web Page
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Posted 5/7/2008 11:57:38 AM
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Bob, it happens with everybody at some stage, keep your heart and keep up the good work. God is really great.......
A person who loses god loses everything, and a person who gets god gets everything.
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Posted 5/7/2008 3:13:22 PM
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I am happy to see this post because I encountered the same issue, 6 votes from a person with a weight of 6 and a bunch of 5 votes with a person that has a weight of 2 on a variety of my photos. I am a beginner and my photos are in no way outstanding ( yet  ), but when I start getting 5's all in the span of two days it makes me wonder what is going on, especially since I had never received 5s before. I am here to learn and get some feedback but it still is disheartening when it begins to feel like people low vote on purpose. I have only been here a month, but overall I really like what DA has to offer... it is unfortunate that there are some who take away from the joys of this site. I will add that I personally have days when I vote a lot because no students visit my office hours and I get bored  but I always try to fairly evaluate a photo before I vote (though I admit I am more careful about my voting now then I was my first few days on the site). I hope some members low voting doesn't drive away people from this site because those who can potentially be driven away are usually the ones who add to this community and the rest of us would really like to see stay
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Posted 5/7/2008 6:40:16 PM
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Some may not like this - but DA "Can Be" a fantastic stepping stone to better things.
It "won't" happen for everybody of course - it's up to the individual to learn and push themselves forward .....as far as they possibly can - continuous improvement and constant learning has got to be your main aim.
Even then, you may never, ever, gain more recognition and genuine praise for your work from other than ......a few sites......if you are really lucky!
I guess, many DA voters can be inexperienced enough to recognise..... the many various inputs that make either a good or an above average photo.
However, what many fail to remember is that this is primarily a Competition Site and those with the "Voting Power" are certainly not going to welcome new threats such as Robert with open arms!
Some will protect what they consider to be "Their Empire" by looking for the most minor of faults to justify scoring down superior images.......... than either their own....or those that belong to fellow members that have been influenced into the same "Mindset".
To the outside world (and worse still - prospective members) - it can seem like something similar to a Sect. That's a worry!!
In my opinion - those that score down images of the quality that Robert Mond has been submitting know "NOTHING" about Photography and ought to hang their heads in shame...if they are for real?
Give yourself a shoogle for goodness sake!! He's probably a class and a half above the majority of photographers on DA!!!
Drive him away and then we "ALL" lose out and nobody will ever learn from him - do YOU want to learn???
Or is the "threat" of such quality tooooooo much for some members to swallow??
(Robert - please don't give-up on DA!! Your photos Oooze class and quality and it's a pleasure to vote on them - keep them coming and try your best to ignore the snipers and those that are jealous of your skills!!)
"I'd love to see a DA-PRO website created - as a stepping stone for those with ambition but also to attract similar quality photographers as Robert Mond - I've no doubt that should it prove to be popular then some of the members at the top of the weights would get found out!"
If you want the rainbow - you gotta put up with the rain.
A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel sooooo good! 
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Posted 5/7/2008 7:06:06 PM
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bhasmang (5/7/2008)
Bob, it happens with everybody at some stage, keep your heart and keep up the good work. God is really great.......
Hey Bhas - we're still trying to get over BOD over here - he is great too!! 
Check him out:
http://www.herecomesbod.com/html/bodsDream.html
(click on the play button)
If you want the rainbow - you gotta put up with the rain.
A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel sooooo good!
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Posted 5/7/2008 7:18:53 PM
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