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Posted 4/6/2008 2:21:28 PM
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| I posted once before this same question but thought I might get a fresh idea. I am having washed out and flat colors when posting to this forum. I don't know how to fix it. I shoot and edit in adobe 1998 then before posting to the web I convert profile to srgb. It looks fine on my monitor, however, after posting it's lost color saturation and clarity. I know this costs points on my image. I have also tried save for web option and same results occur. Any ideas at all would be great. Thanks.
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 Posted 4/6/2008 2:46:18 PM
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Hi Brian,
I share your concern. I've experimented a great deal. I am continuing to search for the right pathway. Haven't found all the answers, yet. I have some suggestions.
1. There is a difference between sRGB generic and sRGB IEC 61966-2.1. Be sure to specify the latter.
2. Be sure to attach an ICC Profile to your images, so that color managed browser can display the colors as you see them in your post processing application.
3. Most importantly, I've had much, much better success with images submitted to the DA contest when I've sized them to 640 pixels on the longest dimension. This bypasses the DA resizer's conversion. (Sorry, Eric! I've tried to communicate the existence of a problem.) My front page Sig Daily winner from today looks great at 2000 pixels. But, I submitted at 640 pixels because I wished the display to be true in color and detail. To get this result, I had to circumnavigate the resizer conversion.
I continue to experiment and work on solutions for this dilemma.
Richard
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Posted 4/6/2008 3:30:31 PM
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| Thanks for the reply. I just tried resizing to 640, and it helped a little. Where I'm seeing the most problems is that my reds are turning somewhat orange. I would say less vibrant as well. In the last year I have started shooting mostly adobe 1998. Most files are shot raw and then assigned their profile in photoshop. I have been printing many photos out and like the color and vibrancy they have so I don't want to go back shooting srgb as my main intent with most photos is to put them in print at some point. I have not posted web photos in many spots, however, on my website the images don't suffer from this problem.
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Posted 4/6/2008 3:36:26 PM
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For what it's worth, I change my monitor calibration to sRGB IEC 61966-2.1 when I'm preparing images for Internet upload.
And, I switch my monitor to Adobe Adobe RGB (1998) when preparing images for printing.
Apple's Aperture 2.1 allows one to view online proofing. This has simplified my life and produced the colors and tones I expect regardless of display or output device.
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Posted 4/6/2008 3:37:11 PM
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Yeah I just lost a lot of saturation on one. Interestingly enough, when you look at it full size vs the reduced size the saturation comes back.
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Posted 4/6/2008 8:05:02 PM
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| I quite often have problems that the image looks great on my laptop but when I upload it and then check it on a PC it is duller and also often too much red...
I might try your suggestion Richard thanks
regards,
 http://www.dailyawards.com/myprofile.aspx?CID=520 When all else fails eat more chocolate 
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Posted 4/7/2008 10:13:31 AM
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| I can't get my images to look the same after converting them from adobe 1998 to srgb. I have tried everyway I know how and still the same result. It seems much worse when posting to this site, as my own website does not have this issue. Im not sure how to fix this.
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Posted 4/7/2008 10:50:05 AM
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hollarsb (4/7/2008)
I can't get my images to look the same after converting them from adobe 1998 to srgb. I have tried everyway I know how and still the same result. It seems much worse when posting to this site, as my own website does not have this issue. Im not sure how to fix this.
Well, they are differrent color spaces and, depending on the luminance, some images may indeed look different in the two color spaces.
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/sRGB-AdobeRGB1998.htm
Difficult to deal with are the multiple variables involved in presenting the colors you want on the Image display device. Photoshop's "Save for web..." utility is notorious for producing images with a different color result than you expected. If you are using the convenient "Save for web...", you might try to "Save as..." instead. Then, you might get a better color managed image.
Not all browsers are color managed. Attach an ICC Profile and you may still see something different than you epect in your browser.
Brian, your question really suggests the DA image resizer is somehow converting the color space.... maybe stripping the ICC Profile embedded file. It could be. Admin would have to answer this.
I'm searching for the best pathway, too. All I can really say is some images seem to lose a notch of saturation and vibrancy when uploaded to any Internet location, especially when processed through PS. I don't use Photoshop anymore and my results have improved.
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Posted 4/7/2008 1:26:54 PM
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