Posted 5/15/2008 3:26:37 PM
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Posted 5/16/2008 3:46:42 AM
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Tonka (5/15/2008)
Absolutely a good thing!! Can't wait to read it..  That is something I would love to see ,a step in the right direction . I agree with Tonka ,can't wait , thank you so much for offering this great gift .
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Posted 5/16/2008 4:02:42 AM
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Posted 5/18/2008 1:01:04 AM
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Glad to see the interest! I have a lot of grading to do at the moment but as soon as I get the chance I will write it. I will make an announcement when it is posted
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Posted 5/24/2008 12:16:50 PM
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People fail to realize the best way to learn is by going to someone and mentor their work .
Adding salt to the wound is what seems to be the common theme after a vote they don't like . Then ask me how to make it better . There also is to much emotional tie to our own images this is another reason that critique isn't taken well. The very best knowledge I have gained is by studying under another photographer whose work I liked . I didn't ask them to fix mine . I went to them to learn how to make my images look more like their's . Bobby
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Posted 5/24/2008 5:12:32 PM
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cameraguybob (5/24/2008)
People fail to realize the best way to learn is by going to someone and mentor their work . Adding salt to the wound is what seems to be the common theme after a vote they don't like . Then ask me how to make it better . There also is to much emotional tie to our own images this is another reason that critique isn't taken well. The very best knowledge I have gained is by studying under another photographer whose work I liked . I didn't ask them to fix mine . I went to them to learn how to make my images look more like their's . Bobby  I could not agree more Bobby. In photography I think we strive for our own style ,what is perfection to one may not be to another . Asking the person who did not like your work what they did not like & what would they do to make it better , is not nearly as beneficial as asking some one who's work you admire how they did that . Human nature is to try harder when you feel you are headed in the right direction . Most are not going to learn much or react well to negative comments from someone who is trashing their work . Mentors on the other hand not only lead the way by the example of their work but once that bond is established the Mentor encourages you to spread your wings and develop your owe style happy to have helped you on your way . I have been lucky in that I have a mentor ,and when he says nothing I know I could have done better . He answers my every question but always says this is only my opinion & what I have found to have worked for me . He always encourages me ,I will never be a pro , this is a hobby that I love and with his help have enjoyed the learning more than I would have ever expected & have gained a trusted friend who has so much knowledge more he is willing to share when I am ready.
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Posted 5/25/2008 9:43:10 AM
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Constructive criticism here is just the same as writing report card comments about the kids!
Here's how I do it....
First, you always start with a positive aspect (whether it is about the child in the case of the report card, or about something you like in the image).
Then, you start the next sentence with...
1. Did you consider __________________?
2. Did you think about trying ___________________?
3. Have you tried ____________________?
4. In my opinion it needs a touch more ___________________?
Just nice ways to start the sentence...dontcha think?
That's what I do! 
Then I end it with...give it a go and see what you think! Then it gives them the option to try it out or completely ignore what I had to say. Which is completely their prerogative, since it is only my opinion.
When I get a comment that I am not thrilled with. I say "thank you" and "I respectfully disagree." I learned my lesson a while ago and I don't let it get to me anymore! If I do let it get to me, it doesn't come out in the reply! 
Susan 
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Posted 7/14/2008 11:04:37 PM
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| ScottyZoozie, excellant simple accurate way to approach this. knowing something and being right doesn't give someone the right to be rude. It only helps to alienate.
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