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Posted 2/19/2008 5:01:08 AM Post #21896
 

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I'm flexable either way. The ONLY request I have is, let us have our full weight. PLEASE.

Posted 2/19/2008 5:22:49 AM Post #21897
 

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Will,,,,,

You really need to find a hobby....




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Posted 2/19/2008 5:39:41 AM Post #21898
 

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Tonka,

It definitely takes skill to get a category award. My point, at least, is that even with a top image, it is far more difficult to get a weekly, for example, than a category award. After 16 category awards, one could collect the same weight as with one weekly award, but I believe it is more than 16 times as difficult to get the weekly.

Bottom line, I couldn't go less than 1 on the scale and I did not want the top numbers to seem outrageous (like 1,000 points for an annual or something), so I squeezed the scale. This new method, basically, achieves the same result of 'evening out' the point values while keeping the numbers at a level that 'looks ok' to the average person.

In my opinion, if the weights were measured in millions, it would all be the same, it is relative. I see the weight limits as more of a marketing effort so people unfamiliar with the system do not feel it is so impossible to achieve a higher account weight (even though I've said many times this is not the name of the game - most people tend to focus on it).


Eric
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Posted 2/19/2008 5:47:29 AM Post #21900
 

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No one could have foreseen the persistent accumulation of category and sig category award weight by some members for the sake of increasing their weight and voting power. Most of us simply clipped off the older and less valued minor awards on a frequent basis because holding them forever diluted our ratings as photographers.

Seeking weight for weight's sake is a wrongheaded goal. The dynamic proposal above corrects this distortion.

Seeking peer review recognition through front page wins and a good overall score received is the better goal. The people who accomplish this should and will be the more heavily weighted voters. This will make the weighted voting system work more smoothly.

Removing the vote cap (75 votes per weight point) will help. I think the votes will still come. I know I will vote more when I'm doing it for the right reason. (The wrong reason being to increase one's weight
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Posted 2/19/2008 5:59:56 AM Post #21901
 

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Removing the vote cap (75 votes per weight point) will help. I think the votes will still come. I know I will vote more when I'm doing it for the right reason. (The wrong reason being to increase one's weight.)

YES!

Posted 2/19/2008 6:39:52 AM Post #21904
 

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I would suggest that standard category and signature category wins have zero weight attached to them. There are far too many of these awards. Just allow the awards to continue but simply do not award any points.
Posted 2/19/2008 8:05:35 AM Post #21912
 

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Eric, I do believe the numbers are just a visual ..it is all the same whether they are larger or smaller.

Cat and sig awards DO mean something and it is not just weight...to devalue them completely would be a grave mistake, you have to have them be awarded with points because this site's function is on the "weight" basis..

Severely limiting the points on the cat and sig awards would put only about how many on the "vote deciding panel"? 15? 25? tops, 35? There would be a huge gap if you ask me, well not that you need to ... Can you say "Elite"?

This site is from beginner to pro , let us not forget that.

I agree that weight is not the end all be all but for some of us IT IS ACCOMPLISHMENT not Power.

Again, I understand the dilemma at hand. I also understand that no matter how much weight is allowable it IS still attainable.

This is just my attitude towards this site, it is an attitude of Photography and is about learning and accomplishing and helping and giving whenever I can or am qualified to do.

A little more sensitivity would help.

I will also have to really re-evaluate my voting scale and adopt one more similar to someone elses where I will have to ask myself "Is this good enough to represent the category?"...I sort of do already but my initial reaction usually takes precedence over my vote.


Again, I am not arguing over a change, just a "little guy" advocate.


edited to add and change a few things..



 

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Posted 2/19/2008 8:34:44 AM Post #21913
 

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Tonka,

Your views are very reasonable and sound, however, spending time on this side of the emails illustrates that many members fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the site and ever increasing account weights cause many to abandon DA.

My hope would be that any change we make would encourage more participation and make the site as a whole appear more valuable. It is a difficult balance.


Eric
DailyAwards.com
Posted 2/19/2008 9:07:40 AM Post #21914
 

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