 Posted 5/18/2008 5:23:16 AM
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snap (5/18/2008)
 I sent in 2 photos & they were rated 5 star out of 5 . Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ,these same images on DA were rated 7.+ . DigaPixBlog also has great readingfor those of us who are hobbyists and do not havepro training .The info & tips there are explained in easy to understand format . Great tips and a wealth of knowledge ,and it is free . One of the articals on Exposure is by John M Setzler Jr. There are articals on judging as well .
Wow! Congratulations! That place is where you should be, if they've found perfection in your images. If there is no room for improvement in any of your photos, then you are far beyond DA. Very impressive! Snap, no need to learn anything more, when you've reached the top. Good luck and best wishes!
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Posted 5/18/2008 7:16:09 AM
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snap (5/18/2008)
I sent in 2 photos & they were rated 5 star out of 5 . Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ,these same images on DA were rated 7.+ . DigaPixBlog also has great reading for those of us who are hobbyists and do not have pro training . The info & tips there are explained in easy to understand format . Great tips and a wealth of knowledge ,and it is free . One of the articals on Exposure is by John M Setzler Jr. There are articals on judging as well . I was just wondering if Eric appreciates some advertising a different site on here. . Congrats Snap it must feel good to be the best.
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Posted 5/18/2008 7:42:46 AM
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hahn23 (5/18/2008)
snap (5/18/2008)
I sent in 2 photos & they were rated 5 star out of 5 . Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ,these same images on DA were rated 7.+ . DigaPixBlog also has great readingfor those of us who are hobbyists and do not havepro training .The info & tips there are explained in easy to understand format . Great tips and a wealth of knowledge ,and it is free . One of the articals on Exposure is by John M Setzler Jr. There are articals on judging as well . Wow! Congratulations! That place is where you should be, if they've found perfection in your images. If there is no room for improvement in any of your photos, then you are far beyond DA. Very impressive! Snap, no need to learn anything more, when you've reached the top. Good luck and best wishes! D Aww thanks ,I will take that in the manner it was given ,but come on now I did say I sent 2 photos not all of my photos .Still lots to learn from those who truly wish to help me improve my images . There are a lot of great tips there ,and your photos are critiqued not voted on in a competitive manner . Most of us belong to more than 1 site and yup one type of photos may do much better on one site than an other , beauty is in the eye of the beholder and some do find perfection in some of my images as they do yours believe it or not .The best one can hope for is to be able to satisfy some of the people some of the time ,never all the people all the time . I have won awards here for one of these images so some here find some of my images to be worthy . I am not complaining , I do very well with what I have to work with . It is a great hobby ,for me once it becomes a job the fun will be gone ,I never want to reach the top , the climb is the fun .
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Posted 5/18/2008 7:58:25 AM
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Alan (5/18/2008)
snap (5/18/2008)
I sent in 2 photos & they were rated 5 star out of 5 . Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ,these same images on DA were rated 7.+ . DigaPixBlog also has great reading for those of us who are hobbyists and do not have pro training . The info & tips there are explained in easy to understand format . Great tips and a wealth of knowledge ,and it is free . One of the articals on Exposure is by John M Setzler Jr. There are articals on judging as well . I was just wondering if Eric appreciates some advertising a different site on here. . Congrats Snap it must feel good to be the best. thanks Alan but I think you missunderstood ,I never said I was the best at anything LOL it was a free curtique I hope Eric does not mind ,I was only relaying my experiance ,always nice to get an imparcial point of view
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Posted 5/18/2008 8:04:50 AM
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I doubt that Eric minds as long as the content is of help to the DA community.
I have to admit that my knee jerk reactions weren't much different than the previous two post. It does come off as a bit of a recrimination on our opinion.
On the site is the following quote:
"I have judged photography for 18 years and found there are no set rules as to what makes a great photograph. It either grabs you or it does not. What appeals to me may be rejected by another. It is up to the photo artist to make the final determination."
It's a lesson that we all need to learn. Those of you that rate a 7 here might well do better elsewhere but I'll bet that if entered on 6 sites there will be mixed reviews. Indeed beauty is in the eye of the beholder but you also need to factor in the scale that the site uses. I have no problem with how tough this site is, in fact I'd prefer that the site rarely give 10s and frequently give 5s. When you look at the goal from a learning aspect the tougher the better. Lets face it most people seek validation rather than education the question is are we like most people?
Edit.. The previous two posts above would have been Richard's and Alan's.
Though I would question what you inferred by "always nice to get an imparcial point of view" to me it infers that the opinions here are not impartial.
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Posted 5/18/2008 9:02:10 AM
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Photo contest websites truly vary in their culture and strategy. When I first acquired a digital camera 5 years ago, the first contest website I participated in had a culture of permitting only backslapping congratulations on all images submitted. Constructive criticism at that site was specifically forbidden, although I didn't know that initially. I tried to offer constructive criticism on a photo which had much room for improvement. I was bombarded by threatening messages to 'cease and desist'. That site only wanted "positive" comments to be attached to images.
Well, this flood of compliments sure made me feel good. I thought my early work was hot stuff. It wasn't. When I go back and look at that early portfolio of work, I'm appalled and aghast at how weak those photos were. Yet, that early website was giving me signals indicating I was making great photos. This was a totally fraudulent deception. I'm still bitter about the time wasted there.... they held back my development.... retarded my progress on the learning curve. I did think it was strange that I never won any monthly awards at that site. When I learned the seminar teaching staff at that site rewarded monthly awards (mostly) to those who bought services (seminars, webhosting, etc.) that my eyes were opened to their strategy. It was a vanity site! Their purpose was to sell services. They made people feel good about their work in the hope that fees for services would flow to the management.
If you stumble upon a website that has only compliments for your work, then you don't want to be there. The motivation is other than helping you improve.
On the other end of the spectrum, PhotoSig.com used to be (may still be) a very helpful photo critique site. PhotoSig is not a contest site, per se. Some of the very good photographers who offer critiques there were very helpful in my development. (PhotoSig has some issues which cause me to believe it is not family friendly.)
Anyway.... that's my point. Each website has a different approach. DailyAwards.com seems to have struck a nice balance.
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Posted 5/18/2008 9:21:49 AM
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I doubt that Eric minds as long as the content is of help to the DA community.
I have to admit that my knee jerk reactions weren't much different than the previous two post. It does come off as a bit of a recrimination on our opinion.
On the site is the following quote:
"I have judged photography for 18 years and found there are no set rules as to what makes a great photograph. It either grabs you or it does not. What appeals to me may be rejected by another. It is up to the photo artist to make the final determination."
It's a lesson that we all need to learn. Those of you that rate a 7 here might well do better elsewhere but I'll bet that if entered on 6 sites there will be mixed reviews. Indeed beauty is in the eye of the beholder but you also need to factor in the scale that the site uses. I have no problem with how tough this site is, in fact I'd prefer that the site rarely give 10s and frequently give 5s. When you look at the goal from a learning aspect the tougher the better. Lets face it most people seek validation rather than education the question is are we like most people?
Edit.. The previous two posts above would have been Richard's and Alan's.
Though I would question what you inferred by "always nice to get an imparcial point of view" to me it infers that the opinions here are not impartial.~ (5/18/2008)
I doubt that Eric minds as long as the content is of help to the DA community.
I have to admit that my knee jerk reactions weren't much different than the previous two post. It does come off as a bit of a recrimination on our opinion.
On the site is the following quote:
"I have judged photography for 18 years and found there are no set rules as to what makes a great photograph. It either grabs you or it does not. What appeals to me may be rejected by another. It is up to the photo artist to make the final determination."
It's a lesson that we all need to learn. Those of you that rate a 7 here might well do better elsewhere but I'll bet that if entered on 6 sites there will be mixed reviews. Indeed beauty is in the eye of the beholder but you also need to factor in the scale that the site uses. I have no problem with how tough this site is, in fact I'd prefer that the site rarely give 10s and frequently give 5s. When you look at the goal from a learning aspect the tougher the better. Lets face it most people seek validation rather than education the question is are we like most people?
Edit.. The previous two posts above would have been Richard's and Alan's.
Though I would question what you inferred by "always nice to get an imparcial point of view" to me it infers that the opinions here are not impartial. Please understand All I ment by that is who ever it was that did the rating was not compeating only rating photos it was a cuttique not a contest . The membership on DA is over 4000,to win an award here is something we all strive for to some degree . The pros more so than the non pros like myself but I believe we all strive to improve our images and the more places we can get help from the better . I felt there was worth while info there so shared . Not to take anything away from those who share their knowledge here but to add to it , we can all benifet . From things such as this . Here are a couple of interesting articles on the rules of photography. http://web.archive.org/web/20000619193049/http://www.bobkrist.com/pages/howto/composition.html
http://www.scenic-route.com/essays/photog.htm Photography should not be a game with rules. Rules are for tennis and foot ball. Good photography is about who has the imagination, creativity and ability to make a subject their own. And at the same time letting us understand the story the image has to tell. - JL Morris
- Things to ask about your photograph
- Ask why the photo ’says’ what it does?
- Why is the subject there?
- What’s the object, or the point, or the ‘effect’, or the emotions?
- Does anything detract?
- Is it a clean shot?
- Can something be removed by the angle at which you shoot?
- Can something be de-emphasized, later, whether chemically or by software?
- Is the photo just of what you wish it to be?
Have a reason for why everything in that photo is there. If you can’t find a reason, if it was ‘just in the shot’, then get rid of it. If you have some trees that seem ‘boring’ in some sector of a landscape, even that might stand to be burned away, then do so. If you have someone else casting their shadow in your posed ‘deco’ portrait, then you probably need to get rid of the other shadow. And that might be difficult to do, later, without a lot of effort. If there’s a lot of sky, and no clouds in the sky, and that sky isn’t what you wanted people to consider in really any way, then crop away some sky. Don’t shoot it. If there’s no reason for something to be in the photo, it’s probably best it not be there. Think about what the shot is about. Part of an article on Judging by http://www.scenic-route.com/
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Posted 6/10/2008 4:05:01 AM
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