 Posted 10/26/2007 9:27:42 AM
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| While voting I came upon five images, back to back, containing signatures. So I have started to give a vote of 1 to all such images with the following comment. Images that include signatures which identify the author have no place in an anonymous contest. All such images, regardless of merit, are given a score of 1. However after doing so on one image I received a message stating that my vote was too extreme and had therefore been discarded by the system??????? Why should this happen when I am simply making a legitimate point in order to preserve the ethos of anonymity. Does anyone agree or disagree with such a stance? I note that many here who actually sell their work have no trouble in this respect - so why should anyone be allowed to identify themselves as the author of an image?
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Posted 10/26/2007 10:34:47 AM
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I also look upon this unfavourably, though only by a point or so. Basically these members are using DA as a cheap method of advertising - ought not to be allowed.
Sometimes, I think that we should have another "Report to Admin" button on the voting page for such things and other unsavoury aspects of some uploads.
However, I realise that it could result in a lot of traffic aimed at Admin and unless Eric gets some outside assistance with such things then it may be totally impractical.
How big does DA want to get is the question I guess.
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Posted 10/26/2007 10:46:41 AM
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| I myself usually refrain from counting off for signatures unless they are distracting. Reason being: I could care less who's image it is... I will give it what it is worth. If the sig distracts, it is not worth as much. The only reason that I am even making a comment about this is that there are OTHER ways to put SIGNATURES on images. Sometimes it is in the title... sometimes it is in the description. I have noticed several photogs that have consistent "markings", whether it be in the title or elsewhere. I do understand completely about the anonymity of the contest that some share.
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Posted 10/26/2007 10:57:53 AM
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That's a very fair shout Happysnaps! Forgot temporarily about some of the other methods. Long silly names seems to be another favourite with one or two members.
I have a feeling that when DAV3 is launched and members can't browse through active images that such coded highlighting of images may become more of a "thing".
But then again what can you do? Ban titles? Ban descriptions? Very difficult isn't it.
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If you want the rainbow - you gotta put up with the rain.
A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel sooooo good!
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Posted 10/26/2007 11:05:36 AM
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| I have been deducting 1 point from my intended score as well as including a comment explaining the deduction for quite some time (often getting flack about it too). I would be in favor of casting the "ONE" vote in order to curb this attempt to circumvent the spirit of the anonymous contest but right now the system's voting "protections" prevent casting these very low votes after an average is established (~15 raw votes?). I feel this practice should be discouraged and I have posted about it previously. Still, right now it does not violate any entry rules so a "report" feature is really not in order. Perhaps the addition of a "quick comment" allowing everyone to easily bring this to entrants attention as well as a recommendation against image identification would be helpful in pointing out that submitting photographer's names are not welcome on contest entries. WE
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Posted 10/26/2007 11:15:18 AM
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HappySnaps (10/26/2007)
I myself usually refrain from counting off for signatures unless they are distracting. Reason being: I could care less who's image it is... I will give it what it is worth.This is true, especially if there are only one or two poster that insist on including their name's on their contest entries. But... What if EVERYONE did it. It would change the entire nature of the contest voting. Entries are intended to be anonymous and everything possible should be done to insure that end. I feel that images should be presented with an Alpah/Numeric Title only. Any descriptions, including photo gear and exposure settings should only be revealed after votes have been cast. WE
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Posted 10/26/2007 11:30:05 AM
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Very interesting Wemor - I do see the advantages of only an Alpah/Numeric title - especially so when the image is in a contest. However, sometimes a title and description clarify's and on occasions makes the image more appealling and understandable/acceptable.
It is a very difficult one and I feel it is sometimes dependant upon the Category that the image is entered in too whether the image could do without a title/description.
Sitting on the fence with this one - would love to hear other opinions.
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If you want the rainbow - you gotta put up with the rain.
A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel sooooo good!
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Posted 10/26/2007 11:32:18 AM
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| I'm with Happy on this one... I look at the image and vote! Although, I understand and appreciate the concern with "signatures" and other "markings" ... But I'm in favor of discouraging members from marking their images... This is after all, an anonymous contest!
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Posted 10/26/2007 11:47:07 AM
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