InstantForum.NET v4.1.4DA Photo Contest Forumhttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/info@dailyawards.comSat, 30 Aug 2008 08:50:02 GMT20http://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxHi Everyone, I have been reading these posts with open eyes. I usually don't participate in open forums, as I have learned in the past that (sometimes) opinions can be taken in the wrong manner. Especially when expressions and voice tones can't be heard in the typed words. Thank goodness for emoticons, LOL:P ie: something I type with intent for laughter, is taken as offensive to another. (Grrr, very frustrating)</P><P>So.. going a little against the grain here, I'll give it another whirl. GREAT THREAD!!! I can honestly understand each of your points regarding the comment request button. In the short time I've been here, I've already experienced allot, relating to that little button --- both positive and negative. So I will use my own discretion when requesting a comment, as well as offering my own comments. Already I can see who is just ticked off that I voted a 6 or 7 ... (justification), from those that truly would like to know why I voted the way I did. Fair enough. </P><P>As a new photographer, I'm obviously in the learning stages, so my comments are based on what I know and 'see' in the presentation. As I learn and grow, my comments and votes will naturally change too. Having said that, I appreciate and welcome all comments, suggestions, and critiques from everyone, regardless of their level of knowledge. Even the simple little: Lacking Interest comment. Although I may find the subject quite interesting, you can't please 'em all. So I'll take it. LOL </P><P>I'm glad I started this thread :) Very informative.</P><P>PS: What you call an outlier vote, I'll refer to as a sniper!!! LOL So far, that's my only objection to the DA system, but I'll continue to participate, and take it for what it is. </P><P>Have a great day!!!Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:43:50 GMTSherryhttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxOkay...well now I have to bring this up...</P><P>If you are getting many 7.something averages , yes like me, and I am not allowed to request comments on 6 or 5,,,,how am I supposed to know where I can improve?..</P><P>What do I look for the next time I shoot another similar subject...I love constructive criticism..can I get it by not requesting on a particular image's lowest score?</P><P>Can I get solid tech. merit by not asking on a highest score..?</P><P>This does not include the situations mentioned all through this post..it is not an all or nothing attitude it is a tad complicated because there is not just malice included in comment requests and responses.</P><P>And again I restate that not everyone is here just to vote and receive votes while not participating on other levels....as is vice/versa..what is a solution? perhaps a flag next to the vote which indicates...."go away not interested" and so then we will choose not to ask that particular member for a comment even if it is a 2 ..just a thought...Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:50:05 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxI understand exactly what you are saying... and I agree with you, with a great BIG BUT:)...<br>Whoever gave you a vote of 1... is NOT going to give you constructive criticism. Their opinion is based on malicious intent and disregard of any respect.Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:37:40 GMTHappySnapshttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspx[quote]At any rate, the opportunity for me to learn something about my image was denied. [/quote]<br><br>In this instance... what really do you think you could have learned from that voter!?! An obvious malicious voter is not out to help. Best to not even bother with those.<br><br>I am so far from knowing everything I am supposed to about photography. I obviously know VERY LITTLE about my camera, software, etc. What I have learned, I have learned by studying the work of others that I like. That is how I have learned what looks good (to me anyway!) as far as composition and such. There are times when I have had an image that just really isn't getting good votes. Generally, I know it's flaws but probably have a personal attachment to it and overlook them! But there are times when I just can't see why an image isn't getting as good of votes as I feel it should. Those are the times I ask for help from someone who specializes in whatever category the image is in. <br><br>I don't try to pick apart each vote... I take all votes in as a general whole. If an image doesn't AVERAGE what I feel it should, I ask for help to find out what it is I am not seeing.Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:59:11 GMTHappySnapshttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxLOL.....</P><P> <A href="http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSYYYYYYYYUS" target=_blank><IMG alt="High Five" src="http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_201.gif" border=0></A> </P><P>cool! :DTue, 20 Mar 2007 06:44:03 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxSo it is! Right there between Storefronts and Photographers! I will start clicking it...Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:38:19 GMTHappySnapshttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxTo the left of the page is a button that says "Critique", this brings you to the request critique section where members have asked for a critique to receive one..</P><P>on the "my account page" when you upload a pic you can check the box asking for a critique (paying members i think) or go to the my account page , clik on a title then, check the "critique request" box and then hit update and it will put your piccie up for a critique...</P><P>or use the forum.Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:34:02 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxOMG! I guess I didn't realize there was a critique request section outside of this forum. I guess I thought it became one with the forum. Maybe that is why there are not many responders? It is not obvious enough?Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:31:08 GMTHappySnapshttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxYes WE:cool: I did...</P><P>I got 16 cause I posted up here in the forum and tried to think of something that would encourage people for their opinion on the pics I would like more help on..(some of those 16 were my replies were they not?)</P><P>Chalk one up for my innovation...lol...Listen read again,,I do not get many responses from the CRITIQUE REQUEST section in the profile section.. I then hesitantly post it here in the forum ..I would like a more diverse opinion .....there are hundreds here...there are mostly the same people here in the forum..they help so much but I feel like I am obligating and annoying them (this may be the case with some) and I dont want to do that WE..</P><P>every single time I ask for a critique request, I end up having to move it here to the forum...for lack of replies.</P><P>I am not saying I dont ever get replies but I am saying 1-3 is just not enough with the critique request tool. not when there are hundreds of members ....some of which say "use the critique request feature instead of the comment request"..</P><P>I see other members get more critiques than thatbut I also see that some get less. that's all.Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:24:51 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxOkay I lied,,back on the box..<P>I want to address the fact that constant requests are dissuading some members from even voting...</P><P>I think this is a shame...what about putting a limit on the number of requests per pic?...WE:cool: Your votes are sorely missed I am sure...</P><P>I normally like to ask for a comment on maybe 1 or 2 lower votes per pic IF THAT...If I request and get an ignore, I will choose another ...if still ignored then I will try again...other than that I think I am reasonable...would love to ask for higher scores but again,,,these are not always welcome nor taking properly...if someone is a lower voter and I get a 7,,IT IS CAUSE I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WENT RIGHT!!! :D but can they tell that ? no.. </P><P>I really would encourage a solution to this ,,,again , I did list one or two in the suggestions forum...</P><P>so I will reiterate.... someone suggested limiting the number of requests per member/image and also I suggested that we be able to type in a reason for our request when we make one..ie:....You gave me a 7 WE:cool: :w00t: how did my pic impress you?!!! woohoooo!.....lol...(sorry WE just an example :D)</P><P>Or,,,,db, (sorry db just an ex..please forgive)...I know a 6 is not bad but what did you think could use improvement?..</P><P>any thoughts on this ?<P>edited for numbers :)...7 of those replies were mine..the others were only from 2 or 3 other members. so that means I got roughly 2 to 3 replies. for that request.Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:17:45 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspx[quote][b]Tonka (3/20/2007)[/b][hr]You havent seen any of my pics up in critique cause I got one comment on the last one I left up there for over a week... [/quote]</P><P>Just last week you posted a thread in the critique topic "<A href="http://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5231-12-1.aspx">A Different Approach</A>" with one of your images. That thread had 16 replies. To me, that seems a much more beneficial dialog. You were able to ask question and responders could be specific regarding your needs. WE:cool:Tue, 20 Mar 2007 06:09:58 GMTwemorhttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxWell I did say I will once in awhile ask on a high vote.. but here is what happened..I came to learn that requests can be ummm, well not so pleasant if you constantly get them for every six you give..I don't ask as often for the simple fact of not wanting to perturb people. I don't think that is fair either.</P><P>Will, I did have a situtaion where an image was averaging high sevens and I got one three...I definately did want an explanation ...I do take the scores seriously but in an educational manner...I was fortunate enough to get some words but on a scale of 1-10 what does three mean toyou?..perhaps you do not care, let's throw that aside for a moment...What if how you fared here was very important, let's say you did not want to make an investment if your skills suck and you just did not have a knack for photography...let's say you wanted to somehow make a living at this, or just part of one... let's just say you are very very serious about the results you get/find here.. let's just say that you cannot afford to sink tons of money into this wonderful art but you do because of the direct results of this site or sites like it...Would you then not see the importance?... Just an example folks...partly true though. I am serious about this..DA is not everything, the opinions here don't necessarily hold true for the rest of the world and your pics may be better or worse received elsewhere but in many areas DA is a wonderful tool...</P><P>I think it is too bad that people do not have self control on some issues... here's another example...everyone has the right to vote what they want..let's say you on average vote alot lower than most anyway.. still on a scale of 1-10 what does a 5 mean?....and how are we supposed to know , to judge our skill/progress by a low vote from somone who wishes not to tell us...</P><P>I didn't join da toget wrapped up games...I came to learn and I am serious about it...If only subscribers should do the requests...how do we know who is subscribing? when the votes come through. For that matter how are we supposed to know anything about the votes when they come through....unless we ask..</P><P>Perhaps your idea has some merit though.</P><P>You havent seen any of my pics up in critique cause I got one comment on the last one I left up there for over a week... I try and comment on any that I can ,sometimes like you , I am at a loss for advice...but basically my critique requests are lacking replies for whatever reason , I have resorted to pulling them from that tool to the forum critique section and I don't think it it is right to keep asking these helpful members to address my needs...If you could get more people to participate with the request critique section than , more power to you.. I think it is a shame that there are so many members here and all I can get is a five person sample to share their opinion or ideas on any of my pics...(very grateful for those you guys :) )...</P><P>Please don't forget, sitting here getting a score we have no clue what or why you chose what you chose so stop being defensive over "why do I gotta justify".</P><P>certainly in some cases yes...a certain photog got a 1 on an image(the image was on the upper end of the scale, let's be honest here)....is there any possible good faith reason behind that?...(save an accidental push of the one but seriously, 1 is a far ways from 8,9.or10) This is an example where I certainly could justify wanting a justification but again, if I didnt get it , my world would not stop..</P><P>okay off the box now..just more thoughts. :)Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:36:05 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxAnother point I'd like to bring up in this discussion of Requests for Comments is that only subscribed users can make them but some people expect the non-subscribed users to answer them. There is an imbalance in that equation. Same goes for the Critique feature. I suspect that some users might feel more like supplying constructive criticism to others if they were able to ask for and receive it as well. We would be better off if there was not a separation of the two groups over this point. <P>Personally, I don't mind giving my opinion of other people's works when I think I have something helpful to say. Sometimes, even though I know I don't particularly care for a photo, I can't think how it can be improved, or of anything positive to say about it. I resent the heck out of anyone thinking they have the right to ask me to justify my votes, or even thinking they have a right to know how I have voted on any image. I plan to continue ignoring all of the Requests for Comment that I receive and will try to comment on as many as I can of the images in the Critique section. Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:14:55 GMTWillPathttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspx[quote][b]Tonka (3/19/2007)[/b][hr]Okay I have to say something here...with respect and understanding for anonymity... <P>I am not asking anyone to "JUSTIFY" their vote. that is a negative connotation and one which is just not the case in every or most of everyones requests.</P><P>Not the case in any of mine..I know you understand the learning tool that it is...I am sorry that it seems that some think it is primarily for justification of a six..there is nothign wrong with a six and I have learned to live without those comments but with a four or five you are denying a learning tool...</P><P>I do not mind someone ignoring me , though frustrating as it is on 3,4 or five but it would be very helpful and downright courteous to let someone know why their pic was bad enough to get a three..:)...but as always just my opinion...[/quote]Tonka, please don't take offense but I think that if you are sending out Requests for Comment on low votes such as "a four or five", and not sending them out on high votes, that amounts to asking a voter for justification. Don't you think the high voter can give helpful advice too? I am pretty sure that your intention is not to force people to explain their votes, nor to intimidate them into voting higher, but those might be the unintended consequences of Requests for Comment. <P>And as far as being denied a learning tool, ... I haven't seen any of your shots in the Critique section lately. Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:42:23 GMTWillPathttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxYa know, all I can say is this,,,I have not really been met with negativity yet for my score/comment...so i guess that is a good thing..<P>In my case I requested alot on sixes in the beginning..not so much anymore ...I certainly can see your point on getting tons of them and I do agree in that case...I was not saying that you or anyone should HAVE to do that...my opinion just holds for the non extreme cases..please understand that...Also for an image that is averaging oh let's just say high sevens..I think a 3 vote would certainly warrant asking a request if you dont want to give it ,,well then no one can make you can they?..Perhaps no one should take the votes so seriously then...oh latidah,,I got a 2 ...whateva...</P><P>The more I participate the more I learn and less I need as I have learned what I needed through the whole process of this all.. perhaps there are issues which I am oblivious to, dunno but I am here for a specific purpose and like to have a fairly easy going attitude and don't always see firsthand the negative issues amongst members/voting/comment requests and scores. Plus , I enjoy helping and being helped.. I am grateful for those oppurtunities.</P><P>I thought DA was for photography/voting/getting votes and learning.. I always support other's opinions..I try and not tell anyone they should do something or it is a negative( I should say was not ever my intention)...and I just feel it is important when making the decision for yourself that all sides are understood..</P><P>And I will once again state that it is just as curtious for the requesting to be mature and take the comment/vote in stride and constructively..</P><P>that's all.<P>edited to ask:....does everyone really get snitty over votes and comments that often???Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:48:18 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxWell, sign me up to be first on the “[b]BANNED LIST[/b]” then. <br><br>In my opinion, comment requests have gotten completely out of hand. It is just too easy to click that request button. I have been getting 10 to 15% comment requests back after I vote. I tried to hold the party line and continue to answer them for a while; but after a voting session in mid January that drew 42 “Request for Comments” I quit… First, I quit voting, then I decided that hurt my enjoyment so I choose just to quit answering the multitude of request. <br><br>Perhaps if I voted 8’s, 9’s and 10’s on every image I would avoid some of these requests. But the combination of a high weight and a lower than average voting style just primes the comment request pump. God forbid, you vote a six or worse a five on an average entry. Everyone thinks they deserve an explanation as to why you have disrespected their work. <br><br>I support everyone’s efforts to learn. I believe in being helpful and I feel that I exhibit that often at Daily Awards. Still, it should be up to me to choose how and when I wish to offer that help. As for a requested comment, I have already given my opinion once on that image through my vote. That should be enough! I should neither be forced to explain my vote nor be made to feel like a second-class citizen if I choose not to. <br><br>A forced “comment request” is not my idea of any “great help” anyway. The majority of requests are made based on the poster’s dislike of a vote. Most answers are just an attempt to defend that unwelcome vote. To me, neither perspective provides the most conducive environment for education. WE:cool:<br>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:10:52 GMTwemorhttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxA lot of people aren't asking for justification... BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE... that is where the negativity comes in. And you can always tell which ones they are because of their response. <br><br>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:59:30 GMTHappySnapshttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxOkay I have to say something here...with respect and understanding for anonymity...</P><P>I am not asking anyone to "JUSTIFY" their vote. that is a negative connotation and one which is just not the case in every or most of everyones requests.</P><P>Not the case in any of mine..I know you understand the learning tool that it is...I am sorry that it seems that some think it is primarily for justification of a six..there is nothign wrong with a six and I have learned to live without those comments but with a four or five you are denying a learning tool...</P><P>I do not mind someone ignoring me , though frustrating as it is on 3,4 or five but it would be very helpful and downright courteous to let someone know why their pic was bad enough to get a three..:)...but as always just my opinion...Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:53:29 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspx[quote]Let people vote as they please without the possibility of having to justify their votes to someone who doesn't agree with them. That way we'll get more honest voting and less inflated scores. [/quote]<br><br>I am not in total disagreement or agreement with you here. Yes, you make a very good point about the vote inflation... but the reason the whole comment request feature started was because of the idea that people SHOULD BE responsible for their votes.<br><br>I, personally, don't have a problem with people ignoring requests. I have stated before that sometimes a person is much better off with an 'ignore' than... well, I'll just leave it to the imagination! LOL<br><br>It's a catch twenty-two as far as I'm concerned.Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:50:18 GMTHappySnapshttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxI know. That is something that we all need to get better about. There has never really been an image posted that I felt like I could give worthy advice about (in my own defense!). I have tried a few times though!Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:44:43 GMTHappySnapshttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspx[quote][b]hahn23 (3/19/2007)[/b][hr]People who never respond to requests for comments are the absolute worst citizens. Ignore them! (I would ban them from the site!)[/quote] <P>I think the Requests for Comment related to a vote are what should be banned. Let people vote as they please without the possibility of having to justify their votes to someone who doesn't agree with them. That way we'll get more honest voting and less inflated scores. Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:43:53 GMTWillPathttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxI don't usually get too many replies when I try.:)Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:40:20 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspx[quote]A better way to get constructive criticism of your images than requesting comments from voters is to use the Critique feature. That way people can give their critique of your shot and make suggestions on how to improve it without the burden of their opinion being associated with a vote. [/quote]<br><br>WillPat, I think that is very good advice. Not only are people NOT in defense mode, but usually the critique is left by someone who shoots the type of work that your image is related to. Not saying that everyone can not have a good opinion about all works, but some people have specializations. For instance, I would much rather ask MG for advice on a portrait than for help on a landscape... if you know what I mean! LOLMon, 19 Mar 2007 19:14:50 GMTHappySnapshttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxWelcome to DA Sherry.</P><P>There is no obligation to respond to any Requests for Comment. As long as that feature is tied to a particular vote, it will always continue to be looked upon by some here as a means to force voters to justify their votes, and to surrender their anonymity in the voting process. Personally, I have never responded to any Requests for Comment and feel that it really is no one's business how I vote on their images, or why I vote the way that I do. I think my votes represent a much more honest evaluation of other people's works if I don't know who they are and they don't know who I am. </P><P>The concept of the DailyAwards community is centered around competition but education is also very important. A better way to get constructive criticism of your images than requesting comments from voters is to use the Critique feature. That way people can give their critique of your shot and make suggestions on how to improve it without the burden of their opinion being associated with a vote. With the Critique feature you can get comments and advice from everyone who is willing to help, not just from the people who have voted on your images. I try to leave a helpful comment for every image I see posted in Critique. Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:35:30 GMTWillPathttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxKeep askin Sturgis!!!</P><P>Your votes of 7 ,imo, are not unfair at all..I would wager to guess that the photog. would also like to know what you liked about the photo but what might have WOWWED it for you..</P><P>If an image has a great number of 8's on it, I would see a 7 as a very good score but just what little errors/flaws did you see that I or others did not..</P><P>Sometimes I will ask for 8,9 or 10!!! I would like to know where I went completely RIGHT :w00t:</P><P>I don't think that by general standards anyone should feel "backlashed" (better word here?) when they get a request...the request is general and so does not personalize the reason for it...(twas a suggeston I had awhile back to be able to specify why I would like a comment)..So it is not always about negatives..at least for me anyway...</P><P>so just more thoughts on that..:)....happy pluggin lol..Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:45:53 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxThank you, ladies.... for the wonderful information about comment requests. I was just a little curious due to the fact that I was getting requests on images I had voted 7 for... and when I checked the overall stats, the average vote was also 7 with an 8 here and there... so i figured I was fair with my vote, but apparently not. I guess it all boils down to what your standards are.... Rarely, do I go below a vote of 6. And quite honestly, most of my votes are in the 8 range, give or take here and there, depending on what I see in the image. And I only request a comment, if I receive a 5, and sometimes a 6 if it's on an image that averages 7.5 or higher. So i'll just dive right in with both feet, and see what happens, LOL Thanks again!!!!!! :) And I hope you dont mind if I ask more questions as I move forward...Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:39:04 GMTSherryhttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxDaunting yes,,certainly...it was for me as well but I jumped right in and I think you benefit greatly by studying these pics, even if you have a hard time with the technical aspects like I did ..I think I learned a lot faster as the comments are similar to critiques...</P><P>If you get many of them just keep in mind that alot of folks here really want to learn and are eager to and fulfilling the requests are one of the ,IMO, best tools here. </P><P>Just another thought...(hey soosie !)Mon, 19 Mar 2007 04:16:39 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspx;) My apologies Sue, you are indeed correct, it is indeed courteous to reply to all requests. But to some of us, when new, it can be a really daunting experience.<br>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 02:04:30 GMTKiwihttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxI always respond to 100% of my request for comments because I believe it is just common courtesy! :D If you request, you should respond...give and take! I wouldn't worry about not knowing technical terms! Just say what you feel and why you voted it that way. Generally everything is taken in the spirit in which it was intended! :)<br><br>BTW...had a wee nosey at your portfolio...nice stuff!!!! :D<br><br>Again...welcome - and have fun! We're here to answer any questions. The technical questions go to WE, Hahn or Daniel... Tonka and I...we just tell you how we feel! :PSun, 18 Mar 2007 23:35:52 GMTScottyZooziehttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxThank you both for your replies! So if I'm understanding correctly, it's a user discretion, not site policy (?) Thanks Again!!! :)Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:32:51 GMTSherryhttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspx:DWelcome Sturgis.<br><br>When i first joined i ignored requests as i didn't know technical terms. Now i'm a tad older and wiser i answer to the best of my ability. But at the end of the day it is personal choice.Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:29:01 GMTKiwihttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxWell you may get opinions from opposite sides of the fence on that question...</P><P>It comes down to what you feel you must do..so with that said this is my opinion on it..</P><P>If you request comments then , I feel you should give comments. If some of your requests are ignored..perhaps you may feel it okay to ignore requests asked for by those who ignore yours..</P><P>Personally Sturgis, If everyone ignored my requests, I would not have learned anything and I would prob. stagnate..These are so valuable to those of us with limited education and experience in the photo arena. But also to those continuing to strive to better their already awesome pics.</P><P>I personally have answered 100% of requests as have others here at DA... I do however feel if your comments are not received in a mature fashion and constructive as they are meant to be no matter how put by the requested , then I would not hesitate to ignore those in the future , well I still wouldprob. answer them and just shrug my shoulders if it is taken defensively while thinking to myself.."then why did you ask me?" "dont ask if you cant take it"</P><P>Some choose to not answer because they do not wish for their identity to be revealed and I say to that ...well if you are winning awards then, your weight is ever changing so you are not as visible as you think..but I personally feel that it is a respectable point of view should you decide that.</P><P>Also if you vote very low, such as a 3 or 4 I FEEL that it is ummm. proper to justify that vote so that the voted knows where they went wrong in your opinion... We sit here going "how did I screw up that badly?" it is very frustrating to not know what happened..cant learn unless we know.</P><P>Okay everyone these are just my own feelings and opinions to be taken or thrown out.. with respect.</P><P>:DSun, 18 Mar 2007 11:33:14 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxThanks Tonka, for the welcome and your response! Now that I have everyone's full attention... (LOL) I have another question... regarding the "comment requests"</P><P>Is it bad policy to ignore a request? My votes are always honest, (unless otherwise noted as a boo-boo) and what I see as a "6" might be a "10" to someone else. </P><P>I have also clicked that button, 'request comments' ... some have been answered, others ignored. Not a big issue to me... but I wonder about other people's feelings on that button.... and if there's a site policy.</P><P>I'm here to learn, share, and have some photo fun... not get too involved with the competition factor, otherwise I find myself shooting for the wrong reasons. </P><P>Maybe someone could just clarify that button for me. </P><P>Thanksssssssss :DSun, 18 Mar 2007 10:58:56 GMTSherryhttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxYes , Welcome sturgis..!! :D..</P><P>I think you should just continue to vote and not worry about doubling up, but that is just my opinion..</P><P>I have ticked the one wrong several times,,,I did also try and send a message asap..one got through though and luckily one member asked for a comment request..</P><P>I felt like a big ninny because I did not remember giving that vote or why I did...so I offered my apologies and hoped I was forgiven...and believed :).</P><P>sometimes the kids hit my arm and our new kitten does too so I try and avoid voting during active household times now.. I think that sending a note like you did was sufficient and the one mistake should not offset the image's average much... So enjoy DA!!Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:26:56 GMTTonkahttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxThanks for such a quick response! That's kinda what I thought... the only "other" solution I can think of is, when the photo comes up again, I'll double up my vote to off set the previous vote. :) I'm still learning the system here.... </P><P>SherrySun, 18 Mar 2007 10:06:16 GMTSherryhttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxSorry to say that there is no way to make it right...unless Eric can delete the votes...but I don't think so. My mouse has jumped once or twice and my vote has been off without me knowing it. That is the way the vote stayed. So...I think that is what it is!<br><br>Welcome to DA and have fun voting lots and lots and lots and lots!<br>:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:DSun, 18 Mar 2007 09:57:08 GMTScottyZooziehttp://www.dailyawards.com/DAForum/Topic5365-29-1.aspxHi there, I'm fairly new to DA, and just recently started to actively participate! On two occasions, I clicked the wrong vote for an image (one was a technical issue, the other was just a human error). My question is, can you withdraw a vote? Or is it just one of those things... "that's the way it goes"... </P><P>Although I sent the photographers a sincere apology, I was hoping there might be a way to make it right.</P><P>Thanks so much!!!</P><P>~ Sherry SturgisSun, 18 Mar 2007 09:52:52 GMTSherry